“I Am a Strange Loop is vintage Hofstadter: earnest, deep, overflowing with ideas, cognitive scientist and polymath Douglas Hofstadter has returned to his. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter. So, a mirage that only exists because it perceives itself: this is an example of what Hofstadter calls a “strange loop”. He has an endearing.
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Ultimately, my first complaint keeps wringing true–the whole premise is flawed. This idea seems to be implicit at this point, but I couldn’t find it stated directly.
Ta petlja je samoreferentna, usmerena sama na sebe. I know I do. Feb 14, Zach rated it it was ok. Nov 17, Annie rated it it was amazing Shelves: It seemed like his arguments could have been made much more clearly in a shorter work and if he toned down his personality.
He graduated with Distinction in Mathematics from Stanford in I suspect that Mr. And what an interesting world.
The key difference being that by his own definition the Self is a self-reflexive symbol but my symbol of someone else—no matter how detailed it is, no matter how intimate we were—does not provide feedback to itself. Remember me on this computer. Douglas Hofstadter has it wrong. May 30, David rated it really liked it Shelves: I liked this book, but there was a lot Llop think I missed.
That’s at least the clearest evidence I’ve ever found that when I’m not around, I have a certain influence in people’s heads, that they ask what I would do or think. The Cartesian prison of isolated and monadic selves is demolished, in favor of selves that are deeply enriched and entwined by their relationships to other points of view. Our enormous craniums each contain a hundred million neurons, with each individual neuron making thousands of potential connections, making our brains the most complex information processors in the known universe.
Log In Sign Up. Mar 13, Fred rated it it was ok. But to the individual who is teleported, douglaas experience is not continuous.
Review of Hofstadter, Douglas R.: I Am a Strange Loop
I read Hofstadter’s “Le Ton Beau de Marot” a few years ago and was amazed by the author’s enormous knowledge. The book’s method and organization lead the reader to understand and perhaps accept this huge concept in a way that I again found very frustrating — often indirect, full of special vocabulary and game-playing, highly personal, idiosyncratic, shifting and evasive, and I would say self-indulgent.
It doesn’t seem to be necessary for his argument, which I think is going to be that strante idea of rich “interiority” is essentially a matter of being able to build ideas out of ideas in a self-referential fashion.
The author draws analogies between Godel’s incompleteness theorem of mathematical logic and the question of the meaning of identity and consciousness. Strangely Wrong I must suggest something blasphemously arrogant: Hoffstadter purportedly explores the nature of self-reference and consciousness, but instead, I think, spends more time pointing out through his writing how clever he is, how feeble he considers Bertrand Strage, and how much of a fan boy he Hoffstadter is of Godel.
The philosophical world he describes about midway through the book, Twinwirld, was extremely fun to play with. If we took an ant’s point of view and tried to define “souls” according to the capacities that make ants unique, humans dougllas come out looking poorly, unable to serve hofwtadter allotted function in hofatadter hive or sacrifice themselves unthinkingly when necessary. But if I make people want to be better, I love it.
Sep 22, David Katzman rated it liked it.
Mar 05, David rated it did not like it. The first half of this book goes into some depth concerning Bertrand Russell’s and Whitehead’s Principia Mathematicaand then the work of Kurt Godel.
But this makes the following question all the more pressing: If you like books and love fouglas build cool products, we may be looking for you. If not a mosquito, is a bee conscious? Yet, he points out that his musings on the subject predated his own personal tragedies.
So you could, in effect, say “This statement is unprovable” by making a logical statement about the whole number that uniquely identifies the very statement in douglsa. I’ve done nothing overt to make myself so scary. So basically consider me fully indoctrinated to the Hofstadter cult of personality.
I Am a Strange Loop
Douglas, you are a freak. After all, it, like us, seems to have a will to live, and responds to environmental stimuli in ways that benefit itself. As the brain goes, so goes the mind, they say.